> Bell Labs’ One Year On Campus program, in which they paid new-grad employees to earn a master’s degree on the topic of Bell’s choosing
I wonder why companies don’t do this anymore. Is it something to do with the monopoly AT&T held, is it related to corporate tax structures, is it related to how easy it is to find PhD graduates who studied similar topics of interest, or is it something else entirely?
>I wonder why companies don’t do this anymore. Is it something to do with the monopoly AT&T held, is it related to corporate tax structures, is it related to how easy it is to find PhD graduates who studied similar topics of interest, or is it something else entirely?
Companies do a lot less to retain employees - fewer pensions, fewer accrued benefits and perks - so it's much less attractive to train when you are assuming attrition instead.
I know too many people that've gotten fancy EMBAs paid for by the company as retention/networking tools along with the countless others (read: majority) that don't use the annual tuition reimbursement available to all employees.
The answer to your question seems straight-forward: they still do.
1. Companies have tuition reimbursement for general employees, but it's usually nominal at $5k/year and part-time education is implied.
2. Executive MBAs and more selective executive seminars are covered by companies so the focus will be better. These aren't cheap (easily $125k/year) and might come with early exit penalties. I'd be surprised if the Bells lab offer didn't have similar clawbacks.
3. Tuition in 1970 isn't what it is now! Wayyyy cheaper!
I don't think companies pay for you to go do an MS or a PhD full-time on company dime. At that time AT&T was a monopoly and may have had money to burn on this. There also may not have been expectations of hyper-growth from the stock market that exist today.
AT&T still pays for various MS courses (mostly MSCS, MS data science and cybersecurity) you can do on a part-time basis. It's quite easy to get the tuition reimbursement for it.
In general, nobody needs to pay someone to do a PhD, at least in a scientific or engineering field -- even in the US, the country where education generally costs the most -- typically PhD students get free tuition as well as a living stipend. Masters students, granted typically don't get this benefit -- but in the US that's typically a terminal degree -- unlike in many countries you don't do a Masters and then a PhD -- you do one or the other.
Bell Labs is best known for inventing things like the solar cell and transistor, but that's a small part of their work. Bell Labs had a whole applied division dedicated to phone company science. This article digs into the details of what it was like to work at Bell Labs, but not the Bell Labs.
This honestly does not sound boring in the least. Statistical design of experiments is super interesting. You can tune your experiments to get the most useful information within your experimental budget. If you’ve ever run a physical real world experiment, you’ll understand how much time and expense is involved in doing it at a plant level. The ability to be economical here is so important!
Totally agree! DOE is way underrated. Once you’ve had to run real experiments (especially at scale), you really appreciate how much time and money a good experimental design can save. It’s one of those areas where a bit of math makes a huge practical difference.
> Bell Labs’ One Year On Campus program, in which they paid new-grad employees to earn a master’s degree on the topic of Bell’s choosing
I wonder why companies don’t do this anymore. Is it something to do with the monopoly AT&T held, is it related to corporate tax structures, is it related to how easy it is to find PhD graduates who studied similar topics of interest, or is it something else entirely?
>I wonder why companies don’t do this anymore. Is it something to do with the monopoly AT&T held, is it related to corporate tax structures, is it related to how easy it is to find PhD graduates who studied similar topics of interest, or is it something else entirely?
Companies do a lot less to retain employees - fewer pensions, fewer accrued benefits and perks - so it's much less attractive to train when you are assuming attrition instead.
No way...
Even guys get parental leave, now!
I know too many people that've gotten fancy EMBAs paid for by the company as retention/networking tools along with the countless others (read: majority) that don't use the annual tuition reimbursement available to all employees.
The answer to your question seems straight-forward: they still do.
1. Companies have tuition reimbursement for general employees, but it's usually nominal at $5k/year and part-time education is implied.
2. Executive MBAs and more selective executive seminars are covered by companies so the focus will be better. These aren't cheap (easily $125k/year) and might come with early exit penalties. I'd be surprised if the Bells lab offer didn't have similar clawbacks.
3. Tuition in 1970 isn't what it is now! Wayyyy cheaper!
I don't think companies pay for you to go do an MS or a PhD full-time on company dime. At that time AT&T was a monopoly and may have had money to burn on this. There also may not have been expectations of hyper-growth from the stock market that exist today.
AT&T still pays for various MS courses (mostly MSCS, MS data science and cybersecurity) you can do on a part-time basis. It's quite easy to get the tuition reimbursement for it.
In general, nobody needs to pay someone to do a PhD, at least in a scientific or engineering field -- even in the US, the country where education generally costs the most -- typically PhD students get free tuition as well as a living stipend. Masters students, granted typically don't get this benefit -- but in the US that's typically a terminal degree -- unlike in many countries you don't do a Masters and then a PhD -- you do one or the other.
Bell Labs is best known for inventing things like the solar cell and transistor, but that's a small part of their work. Bell Labs had a whole applied division dedicated to phone company science. This article digs into the details of what it was like to work at Bell Labs, but not the Bell Labs.
"the" Bell Labs was effectively gone by the 1970's anyway. So the Bell Labs described in this article was "the" Bell Labs
This honestly does not sound boring in the least. Statistical design of experiments is super interesting. You can tune your experiments to get the most useful information within your experimental budget. If you’ve ever run a physical real world experiment, you’ll understand how much time and expense is involved in doing it at a plant level. The ability to be economical here is so important!
Totally agree! DOE is way underrated. Once you’ve had to run real experiments (especially at scale), you really appreciate how much time and money a good experimental design can save. It’s one of those areas where a bit of math makes a huge practical difference.